So,
My little request would be to be able to import the data as midi CC commands instead of midi notes. That way I would be able to control the volume of the track for example.
Yeah, I know it will end up into some kind of midi editor with flexible point editing and freely transformable curves that has nothing to do with compositions anymore, but I would be happy with just midi cc information for now.
I like it. Personally I would like to see each part type have it’s own indefenite array of curves/lines as curve editors, so you could control any CC with a ramp, meaning it would not care if you changed the length of a part type.
Meaning: You want a sweep of a CC? Set up a sweep in one chorus, and now it’s the same in all.
It’s of course - yes - a problem that this is already sort of / almost what the DAW editors offer, and yes, you are right, it’s danger teritory to start doing what the DAW does(inside the DAW).
SO… Let me ask you: Why not just do this in the DAW?
Hmm…
When I was testing around the program to understand what I would use for, to me it it was kind of a sketching tool that creates a template of the song and what I would like it to do is that it would create a curve of the song as starting point it would be easier to create the curves after that instead of the notes or audio or graphics.
So yeah, it kind of is only one curve. Sure I can draw it in the Daw, but drawing a curve for whole 5 minute song is a lot slower than having it from the template, at least in my mind. Instead of muting tracks I think I would like to work with mixing the volumes of the tracks and I could do that with the curves easier.
I hear you: Speed initially. And I would tend to agree.
And we may do this, but I need your guys help to think it through, that’s why I’m asking out loud 
What then, when you realize that the curve you did should be a little more complex, OR you realize that you want slight different curves in another chorus?
This is what makes me nervous, because SPEED is what we can (and should) deliver. But not at the cost of later making TROUBLE, especially not if these trouble is what the DAW is designed to handle.
So, in order to think “YES; LET’s DO CURVES”, I need to somehow think “When we get that, then it’s a final solution”, not “when we get that, we will later solve what people will want if they want individual curves for chorus” etc…
With the Mute patterns: That works, because user can freely still just mute one chorus somewhere on a track. Problem is if we start sending CC, I think it will be a mess?!
You probably know ShaperBox, and it’s very inspiring for me in this instance. But that is also the sound manipulator, and ArrangerKing should not be that, I think.
We could of course start a hosting of other plugins inside ArrangerKing, and then control them, but again I think every time I think this through, it’s becoming a mess if actually done… The idea is nice, but then…
Wait a minute, I just read your post again, perhaps I dont understand you at all. Can you please try and explain what you would like using other words? Maybe a drawing?
Yes, It would not be an extra tool, just different type of export.
Now when I click export option I can do midi filled or midi outline, but instead I would need it as midi cc. Would that be possible?
Please see if you can do a sketch or similar to visualize. I think we can do this, but I need to udnerstand and make sure you have thought it trough / we are not misunderstainding each other 
Here I have beautifully highlighted the exporting process in Cubase.
So first I’m selecting the export type and then this is what is exported. On third image I have drawn a line in midi CC 7 instead of it being empty. I would like the note information be midi CC 7 instead of notes. So, in Cubase I can transform the data or I can put filters that change the data to cc, but it would be much easier to work directly from the program.
Is this highlighting it any better?
thanks,
Yes, thank you! Tell me: Would you expect then for example all “Verses” to be the same CC7-value?
Hi.
Basically yes.
It is a bit complicated question. CC 7 is standard for controlling the volume. Allowing export with CC 1 allows you to control modulation of external or internal synths for example so it opens quite a lot of doors, but regular users might find it complex to work with list of different cc codes.
I would vote for it, there are people that might find it very usable if you can set the cc control code.
I need to understand exactly what you need to be working on it
Are you essentialy saying that you would like to be able to set all “Verse” to be “Volume 87” via CC?
No,
So normally the cc value would be empty, but I draw lines there to show how it looks like.
So in the intro part we start from zero, we would have automatic volume fade ins and fade outs this way.
Aaaaahhh… OK, this is what we are considering already:
Essentially all Part types will have the option for making a curve / ramp for any CC, and there’s more.
I have 2 challenges: Not enough people know about ArrangerKing currently so it’s too much money out of my pocket / I am not selling enough.
The other is of course as we discussed that it’s a greyzone, nearring what the DAW does, but as you write: If it’s “dumped” then the user can play with it afterwards, much like the chords…
So thank you for helping me think this better through!!
I need help from you guys, spread the word, enter ArrangerKing for best invention here Best Audio and MIDI Software - KVR Audio Readers' Choice Awards 2024 etc - it makes sales, and thats money and that’s development…
Thanks!
